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Article - Know how to answer misdirected debt calls
Allen

5/8/2008 8:03:12 AM
Good article to read.
 
"What can you do if debt collectors keep calling you on a debt that's not yours?

My recent story on how to handle debt collectors generated e-mails from readers who've experienced just that.

"I have a credit monitoring service and I don't have any credit issues," wrote Jack Boyd of Richardson. "They just call me anytime they have anyone named 'Boyd' with any first name, trying to get lucky and find the one they are looking for. The calls are for many different first names, and it changes constantly.""
 
Read the full story on the Dallas News
 

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Ohio Proposes Punching Payday Lending Industry In The Face
Allen

4/30/2008 4:13:25 PM
From the Consumerist. All states should do the same in my opinion. If not at the state level then the FTC needs to step in and regulate these usurious lenders.
 
"Widener introduced House Bill 545, which would cap payday lending rates at 28 percent, limit borrowers to four loans per year, cut the maximum loan size from $800 to $500 and require that borrowers get at least 31 days to pay off a loan. "I'm proud of where we are at with this bill, and I think we'll have the strongest law in the country," he said. If enacted, the bill could spell the end of the burgeoning payday lending industry in Ohio, which has grown from 106 stores in 1997 to more than 1,600 today. The bill would attempt to encourage banks to participate in a new small-loan program though a partnership with the state treasurer's office." - The Consumerist
 
See also the Columbus Post Dispatch article.

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Another 100 Dots Sold
Allen

2/2/2008 6:54:55 PM
 
Ms. M.J. Spencer of Lee, New Hampshire bought 100 dots and also the domain buythistoday.com.
 
Her image and links will be up shortly on the front page and on the Dot List page.

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Dealing With Debt Collectors – The NEVERS and the ALWAYS
Allen Harkleroad

2/2/2008 6:35:09 AM
 
These "Never" and "Always" tips are primarily aimed at consumers that are having financial difficulties and cannot pay their debts as agreed to their creditors.

THE NEVERS

NEVER get emotional when talking to a debt collector on the phone.

Debt collectors will attempt to evoke strong emotion from you (anger, outrage, frustration, guilt, fear etc.). Many collectors use this method to cause you to not think rationally, when you become very emotional they can most often get you to agree to something you would never have agreed to if you weren’t in a state of mental distress. Don’t trust them, they will do anything (lie, slander, threaten legal action, etc.) to get paid

This trick works well and they WILL try to use it, so don’t fall for it. Always remain calm when dealing with a collector on the phone.

If they become abusive, calmly tell them you are not going to discuss the matter further until they calm down, tell them if they continue then you will hang up. Chances are they will yell and scream some more. When they do start yelling or abuse you, simply hang up. They will undoubtedly call you back. If they again become abusive or start yelling, remain calm and repeat that you will not discuss the matter until the calm down, if they don’t calm down then hang up again. Repeat this as necessary.

 

NEVER under any circumstance give a debt collector or collection agency your bank account information to draft your account.

Many times the collection agency will draft your account for more than the agreed upon amount, thus over drafting your account. They may also draft your account multiple times. You would not give a total stranger walking down the street your bank account information, so don’t give a debt collector your banking information. Often the collector will say they must have your payment by the end of the day and moan and groan. Tell them you will send them a check or money order. They will try and object, tell them if they want to be paid they will accept a check or money order. If you remain firm, they will accept this.

You are already in debt, so what if the collector doesn’t get his money immediately, they can get their money in a few days. Be sure to get the check or money order in the mail as soon as possible.

DO NOT BUDGE ON THIS. I have read literally hundreds stories of people that have had their bank accounts raped by unscrupulous debt collection agencies.

 

NEVER let a debt collector set the terms of a re-payment agreement.

You know what you can afford to pay, the debt collector doesn’t. They will try their best to get the most money possible from you. You decide what you can afford to pay. Most debt collectors are paid based on their performance, so naturally they will try to take as much as they can. Make sure you can cover your basic living necessities then arrange payments with what you have left.

 

NEVER take any form of verbal or emotional abuse from a debt collector.

You are a human being and no person has the right to strip you of your dignity. If they abuse you verbally, remain calm and tell them until they change their attitude you will not discuss the matter with them, threaten to hang up the phone. If they continue their abuse, exercise your right to hang up. There are no laws on the books that require you to talk to a debt collector on the phone. They may try to tell you otherwise, but don’t believe them.

 

 

THE ALWAYS

ALWAYS have the debt collector put the payment arrangements you make in writing.

Don’t pay a single cent until you get the agreed upon arrangement in writing. The collector may moan and groan about it. Tell them if they want to be paid you MUST have the arrangements in writing. This is to protect you in case the collection agency tries to change the terms of the agreement or tries anything underhanded. When you receive the agreement, be sure to read over it thoroughly to make sure they haven’t snuck anything into the agreement. If they have added terms to the agreement call them and tell them what you received is not what you discussed or agreed to. Tell them to send it back corrected. DO NOT BUDGE ON THIS.

ALWAYS record the telephone conversation; even they are calling from a two party consent state, record the conversation. If they are calling from a one party state, you DO NOT have to tell them you are recording the conversation. If they are being abusive, tell them you are recording the conversation. They will either change their tone or hang up on you.

BE SNEAKY, use their own methods against them, especially if the debt collector is calling from a two party consent* state. When they read off their script, “this call may be recorded for”, say (in a humorous and joking way) “I am recording this call for customer service reasons”, they won’t think about it and probably think you are joking, however by them not saying “NO” they are giving consent for you to record the conversation.

List of one party and two party consent states

Look up an area code

* Several states require the consent of both parties of a telephone conversion to allow the call to be recorded. 37 states allow the consent of just ONE party (i.e. you don’t have to disclose that you are recording the conversation). If you are at work, neither you nor they have any reasonable expectancy of privacy, so if a collector calls you at work you still may be able to record the conversation without violating any state of federal law.

NOTE: If the debt collectors phone number doesn’t show up on the caller ID or displays “unknown”, you should then you have every right to assume that they are calling from a one party state, because they are attempting to hide their location. A Federal Trade Commission attorney disclosed this to me.


ALWAYS keep a record of every phone call and postal mail contact from all collection agencies.
 
 
Write down the time, date, the name of person that contacted you, the company and any phone numbers.
 

ALWAYS pay exactly what you agreed to pay when you agreed to pay it.

I mean fair is fair, you owe the money and for some reason got behind on paying the creditor.

 

ALWAYS remain calm when talking with a debt collector on the phone.

See the don’ts above

 

ALWAYS negotiate unless you are financially able to pay back the debt.

More often than not, the collection agency bought your debt from your creditor. They buy the debt at a discount (so many cents per dollar owed). Which means many times the collector will take less than face value on the debt. The collector will of course try to get as much as they can, if they see you won’t budge they will often drop the amount you must pay back. If you are financially able to pay the debt, and then pay it, after all you owe the debt. If you aren’t in a good financial situation try negotiating.

Always get any negotiated amount in writing from the collection agency, do not pay a single dime until you receive it and read it over thoroughly before making any payments.

 

ALWAYS pay what you agreed to pay.

You owe the money, you gave your word, so pay it per the agreed upon terms. Pay the debt as agreed and in a timely manner. You never know when you might have ore financial problems and need to discuss different payment arrangements with the collector.
 
If you haven't already be sure to read my Debt Collectors - How to Take Their Power article.
 
 
Copyright © 2008, Allen Harkleroad, All Rights Reserved
 

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Dealing with Debt Collectors – How to Take Away Their Power
Allen Harkleroad

2/1/2008 5:10:01 AM
 
If you or someone you know is having problems with creditors or collection agencies, this is the article that they hope you never read.
 
Bad economic times, slowdowns at work, lay-offs, medical problems, and losing a job can put you in a bad financial way. After getting behind a couple of months the collectors will inevitably start calling and harass you.
 
If debt collectors are harassing you, I feel your pain, and I have walked in the same shoes as you. I’m not afraid to admit I have financial problems, I want to help others that have had to endure the same issues and abuse that I have.
 
It’s not the end of the world though and there are certain things you can do to lessen the harassment.
 
I’ve had my share of struggling with debt and dealing with creditors and debt collectors. In the past, I would get depressed over it. Of course, the idiots calling from collection agencies just don’t seem to understand that no matter what they say or threaten they aren’t going to get paid until I am able to do so. I’ve seen and heard it all, I’ve been threatened by supposed criminal lawsuits, which is of course illegal for them to do. They have tried shaming me and even intimidating me. I’ve even had them threaten to call neighbors and then have them actually do it, which of course is also illegal.
 
So far, all but two collection agencies that have come after me have used illegal, unethical and underhanded tricks to try to collect. So what can you do about such band behavior?
 
There are several things you can do, below you will find a list of things you can do and some helpful advice on digging your way out of debt.
 
First calm down, there is hope, being behind on your debts is only temporary if you work on getting out of debt.
 
The first thing you should remember above all else is to pay your necessities first (house, food, utilities, vehicle, insurance, clothing, etc). This should always come before you even consider paying debts you have fallen behind on paying. Many debt collectors will try to get you to make a payment, even when you only have enough to cover your basic needs. Don’t listen to them, pay your necessities first.
 
If you anything left over after paying your basic needs then divide what’s left up between the companies and people you owe. See further down this post for an illustration of how to divide money between creditors based on what you owe.
 
If the debt collectors are ringing your phone off the hook, there are several things you can do to lessen and even stop it. I am not sure why debt collectors think that by being abusive it is going to help matters. I’ve heard that they try to make you upset and angry because you are more than likely going to pay them something to shut them up. Don’t fall for it, all they want is to be paid and will likely do anything they can to get you to pay. They aren’t your friends, so don’t listen to them.
 
If possible, always record all phone calls. Many answering machines have a record function on them. Use it.
 
Secondly, if a collector gets abusive or starts yelling, tell them that if they continue with that behavior you will hang up, if they do then hang up. They will probably call back, if they do remain calm and answer the phone (or let it go to the answering machine), if you choose to answer the phone and they again become abusive or start yelling, calmly tells them that until they calm down and stop misbehaving you are not going to talk to them and hang up. You take their “power” away from them when you remain calm and tell them you aren’t going to discuss anything until they calm down.
 
If they are calling your place of employment you can write them a cease and desist calling letter, be sure to send it certified mail with return receipt so you know they got it (this may come in handy if they violate the cease and desist letter). As soon as the first call hits where I work, I write up a simple cease and desist letter (see example below) and send it certified mail. More than 95% of the collectors will stop calling after receiving such a letter. A collector can call once after receiving such a letter but that’s it, if they call more than that they are in violation of the Fair Debt Collections Practices Act (FDCPA) and you can report them to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC.gov) and file suit against them.
 
"I’ve had collectors violate the FDCPA by calling repeatedly after receiving my cease and desist letter. Currently one is trying to settle with me out of court (NCO Financial) for violating the FDCPA and the other three I am going to file against in court for their illegal behavior. I have all of the recorded phone conversations, photos of the caller ID and the return receipt card they signed when they got my certified cease and desist calling letter. There are 37 states allow one party (one person) consent to record a telephone call (see link at end of this article). Additionally if they are calling, your employer and you record it you may be okay as at your place of employment you have no reasonable expectancy of privacy, so it would hold up in court even if the person calling you is in a two party consent state."
 
I’ve also had success in filing complaints with the FTC and the better business bureau, it seems that bad debt collectors will back off once they know you will complain about their unethical practices. The FTC takes abusive collections practices seriously, so be sure to report all violations to them (www.ftc.gov).
 
Write down each time a collector calls and keep track of this, keep all of the return receipts from your cease and desist letters, save those phone recordings, you never know when you will need them.
 
Only agree to talk to a debt collection company or creditor once every two weeks, if they call more than that, tell them that they have already called in the last two weeks and you will not speak with them again until the next two week period, then politely tell them you are ending the call.
 
You can send a letter to cease and desist ALL telephone calls. However, this could trigger them filing a lawsuit (not likely though on debts under $2000.00). This is a judgment call on your part. If the collector is very abusive then this may be an avenue you want to take.
 
---- SAMPLE CEASE CALLING LETTER ---
 
[DATE]
 
[YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS]
 
[DEBT COLLECTORS NAME AND ADDRESS]
 
RE: Regarding calls to employer [ADD ANY REFERENCE NUMBERS FROM DEBT COLLECTOR HERE]
 
Dear [INSERT DEBT COLLECTION COMPANY NAME HERE],
 
I am writing to formally request that your firm (or any agency hired by your firm) no longer contact me at my place of employment, [INSERT YOUR EMPLOYER HERE AND PHONE NUMBER(S)].
 
My employer requests that calls such as yours must cease, under the terms of the 1977 Federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, I formally demand all such calls to my place of employment cease. You will take note that this letter was mailed certified mail, so I have proof that you are in receipt of this letter should legal action against you become necessary on this matter.
 
Please give this matter the attention that it deserves.
 
Sincerely,
[SIGN HERE]
 
--- END OF SAMPLE CEASE CALLING LETTER ---
 
How to pay collection agencies or creditors with money left over after you pay your necessities.
 
Let’s say you have outstanding debt that equals $2,000.00 and you have $100.00 left over after you paid for your families basic necessities.
  
Major Credit Card                            $1500.00
Retail Store Credit Card                 $ 250.00
Retail Store Credit Card                 $250.00
 
Total                                                   $2,000.00
 
What you want to do is divide the $100.00 you have to pay debt with based on the percentage you owe each creditor.
 
Since 75% of your debt is owed to the Major Credit Card you would pay them $75.00 of the $100.00 and $12.50 to each of the other two (as they are 12.5 % of the debt, so they get to split the other $25.00 of your extra money).
 
Call each creditor or collection agency and tell them what you are paying and why you are paying it the way you are (the percentage pay off as outlined above). You’ll find that if you call them each time you make a payment, they will call you less. This puts the “power” back on your side. Freak them out by calling them.
 
If you don’t have much left after paying your necessities pay what you can on the biggest debts and the others can wait until the next time you have extra money to pay down the debts. If a creditor or collection company calls because you didn’t make a payment, tell them that you only had so much money to pay debts with and that they fell below the line this month, and that you will do your best to make a payment next month, if there is any money to do so. Take the initiative, call the creditors that you won’t be paying this month, and tell them that unfortunately there is not money to pay them this month, perhaps next month. Debt collectors just don’t know what to do in cases such as this. Mess with their heads!
 
Always be polite and do not take any form of abuse form them, again, if they become abusive tell them that you aren’t going to talk to them until they calm down and tell them that you are now hanging up. No one deserves to be abused, threatened or intimidated by anyone else. Don’t accept it.
 
Do what you have to do to make extra money to pay your debts. Get an extra job, sell stuff (after all it is only stuff, you can buy it again when you are out of debt), have a yard sale, anything to make money to pay off those debts. If you work hard, then the situation is only temporary. The faster you work to get the debts paid off the faster it all goes away.
 
View the list of one party (one person) telephone conversation recording consent states.
 
Read my Dealing with Debt Collectors - The NEVERS and the ALWAYS (great "Be Sneaky" tip in there too). This article covers what you should and should not do when talking to a debt collector on the phone. This is another item that debt collectors hope you NEVER read.
 
I am also a big advocate of Dave Ramey's Financial Peace University.
 
Copyright © 2008, Allen Harkleroad, All Rights Reserved
 

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Interest Rate Cut Again – What does this mean for you?
Allen

1/31/2008 3:45:29 AM
 
January 31, 2008
 
I was talking to a friend of mine in the banking business last night after church and asked him what the mortgage rate currently was. He told me that they are giving 4.5 to 5 APR percent on mortgages. When you combine the lower interest rates and the slump in the housing industry, buying a home is becoming more and more attractive.
 
Yesterday the Federal Reserve cut the prime rate to 3 percent. This move is good for consumers, whether they are shopping around for a low interest mortgage, equity loan, or even a credit card.
 
A quick bit of advice, just because the interest rate is falling don’t use it as an excuse to take on more debt. Over the next two months or so, consumers are going to see lower rates for loans and credit cards.
 
If you are in a position to refinance your current mortgage or are shopping for a new home the next couple of months are going to be ideal for getting a great deal.
 
Another good thing to come out of the prime rate cut is that most adjustable rate mortgages (ARM) are likely going to drop as well, which will offer relief to those stuck with an adjustable rate mortgage.
 
Student loans will follow suit and for those that are consolidating their student loans the ideal time to do so is approaching. The projected decreases in the federal education loan interest rates haven’t dropped this far since 1992.
 
I had heard that the Fed is considering more cuts, from what I have read they will need to cut the prime to 2.5 percent to keep the economy out of a recession.
 
What does this mean for you? It means that interest rates are going to continue to drop and for consumers looking for a new home, refinancing of an existing mortgage, or shopping for a great interest rate on a credit card your time is coming.
 
 

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Florida Debt Collector Hit With 3.4 Million Dollar Fine by FTC
Allen

1/30/2008 2:22:44 PM
 
One bad debt collection company down a thousand or more to go. Reporting abusive debt collectors to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) does work. This is the kind of news I like to see!
 
 

Court Enters Final Order in FTC Action Against Florida Debt Collectors

A federal court has entered a final order against a Florida debt collection agency, its principals, and its attorney, settling a Federal Trade Commission action that alleged that the defendants violated the FTC Act and the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) while collecting consumers’ debts.

The FTC’s complaint alleged that the enterprise used misleading dunning letters and abusive telephone calls to falsely threaten that consumers would be sued, their property seized, and their wages garnished if they did not pay the money that the defendants said they owed. The complaint alleged that the collectors often shouted and used profanity and other abusive language to carry out their collections.

The stipulated final order, among other things, permanently bars the defendants from falsely representing the character, amount, or legal status of a consumer’s debt, that their collector is an attorney or represents an attorney, or that if the consumer does not pay, the defendants can or will file a lawsuit against the consumer. It also prohibits them from violating the FDCPA in any way, including by disclosing a consumer’s debts to any third parti